what a great combination of words in that title, man, who ever thought the day would come
Good video, but background music too loud.
You are so pretty
Irregardless is one of the words that stupid people use because no one reads any more, and people are lazy. some words count and some words don't because we NEED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.
Dictionaries do evolve, and over time different words switch from prescriptive to descriptive. Asking the question "is it one or the other" is a false dichotomy. Dictionaries are both.
Ha yeah, only took a minute into this video to know I have to subscribe to your channel =D
I'll be the first one to admit that I'm no linguist, but doesn't prescriptivist grammar try to eliminate ambiguity by forcing language to follow a logical formula? I would compare it to ethics. Does ethics attempt to describe the way people behave? No, it attempts to prescribe the way people should behave. Why? Just because something is the way it is, doesn't mean it's the best/right way.
Perhaps you could just learn English, instead of ranting online, trying to justify use of a non-word.
Excellent video! Thank you!
Irregardless is badass! I love that definition. I am also in love with your thoughts, ron 🙂 i agree that words evolve. The question is do we accept the word or not. And what is the criteria? I sure would love another video about this 😀
I used to judge others for their word choices simply because I am more aware of grammatical faux pas and linguistic correctness. Then I realized that I live in the 21st century, where internet dialect and made up words (proliferated through TV and films) have seeped into our consciousness and get assigned definitions and revised definitions all the time. We live in the remix age, and it's actually pretty cool to see people get so creative with language—even if it's inaccurate.
I subscribed as per your suggestion. I hope it gets warmer here in Canada and that you don't die.
I've been on a rampage going through all your old videos and I think you're my favourite person on Youtube; ever. Your personality is kickass and you're beautiful inside and out, with fantastic views and insights. My TBR list has also increased ten-fold thanks to your recommendations. So glad I found your channel!
I just discovered your channel and you are probably the first adult I've seen that actually gives a shit about teenagers and does not underestimates us and I love you for that, all your videos are the bomb diggity, glad there are ppl with mindsets like you out in the world :)!
Loved this, so good! I study English literature and linguistics and irregardless recently came up in a Language Variation course that I´m doing. Such interesting stuff and you spoke about it so eloquently! Love combining theory with modern pop culture! Keep up the good work! xx
I loved this!
Also, your purple hair is gorgeous.
I've never considered "irregardless." It's probably passed my lips before, perhaps also as a teenage girl. Much fruit for thought.
I LOVE your videos like this! They're so interesting!!
You're an amazing starfish! This made me think of Samuel Johnson and his dictionary introduction–he explains how language is so freakin' malleable. When is the first episode of your series being released?! <3
Brilliant!! More linguistic insights please! 😉 The high volume of the background music was dirstracting, though, it was difficult to understand you. Still, abdolutely birlliant content!
you could easily interpret the two negating affixes as emphatic, such as the use of double negatives in AAVE, as opposed to the two negatives cancelling each other out in other varieties of English
I love this, great video!
EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS IS AMAZING!
….and I think I need to read Verbal Hygiene. Also somewhat related: I hate when people correct people or make fun of people for using the word "literally" instead of "figuratively" (because I feel like people do that alllllll the time) but that's the joke isn't it?! yes, I know you're jaw didn't literally hit the floor, but you say literally to be dramatic and are almost saying your jaw figuratively hit so floor SO HARD and SO FIGURATIVELY it literally hit the floor. y'know?!
Irregardless is a special form of 'double negative' which is found more grammatically like "Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges!" or "We don't need no education/We don't need no thought control" (arguably) in both case the added negative is meant to intensify the negation, rather than cancel out and become a weak affirmative. Some languages actually work that way, like Russian, and some actually mandate double negatives like Afrikaans.
Similar to this is litotes, (or as I call it, British affirmation) which where you state the negative to emphasize or understate affirmation. Examples are "not as clean" or "not bad"… Understandably, George Orwell hated this, especially the "not un…".
Is disregardless a proper word?
Interestingly, the YouTube spellchecker puts a wavy red line under disregardless, but not under irregardless. Irregardless must be a proper word, but maybe that's what you were saying.
Oxford dons 0: Valley girls 1
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Loved this. I'm looking forward to part two! There are very few topics I love to discuss more than society's shaming of all things teen girl-related.
Got damn Ron, I want to be your friend.
Language is such a double edged sword. On the one hand you have to be "proper" and know that irregardless isn't a word. If you do then you're in on the joke, which is usually on the speaker who is othered and seen as less. On the other hand if you correct others then you're a snob who shouldn't be so uppity :/ We classify and regulate behavior down to the basic function of civilization. We need to communicate, yet we can't do that without making some sort of judgment. It's all so distressing. I've been trying really hard over the past year to improve my language to be more inclusive and less judgmental. It's so weird how the little things you catch yourself saying can be so fraught with all this historically negative baggage.
Stop trying to make "fetch" happen, Gretchen, it's not going to happen.
Today I talked about Mean Girls and had a class on prescriptivist grammar. Really enjoyed this, film a second part. Also you are lovely and your videos are really interesting, thank you.
Gretchen is such a good example for the theory. You can even take it a step farther and point out how she's trying to invent words and at the end you see her learning a new language.
I will never understand why Mean Girls is so beloved. And I adoooore Tina Fey. The music was too loud in this video so it was difficult to hear you very well but I'm sick and grumpy in bed so that could be a factor. Anyway, loved the video as always and I almost want to re-watch it now since I trust your opinion so much.
That was so fetch!
Brilliant! Can't wait to see more on this topic 🙂
Part 2 please, thanks! I only want and want and want, never give back. Apparently.
A great video!! Cannot wait for the second part!
Words are hard. I'm a frequent user of totes, srsly and def, and yet I find myself irrationally irked by people saying irregardless or spelling all right "alright." I just need to calm my tits and love language for its glorious malleability. Loved this video. Srsly.
Using Mean Girls as a context to talk about grammar…can you get any more awesome! 😀 Thanks for the insight on irregardless. I've never really considered its problematic structuring before.
This video is perfectly timed in my life. I'm raising a 14-year old daughter who speaks in a language I am almost convinced is foreign…at least foreign to me (and I'm a young mom, but this doesn't necessarily help as language has changed, of course, in the 18 years since I was 14). Even though I have raised my daughter to avoid "drama" at all costs, it still dominates her life because young girls live in a world where bad behavior, improper grammar, selfishness and self-centered(ness) are easily accepted, if not encouraged. I understand what you're saying about whether words are "right" or "wrong" and for those of us who view a word "wrong," it's easy for us to view the person who used them as "stupid." I, of course, don't consider or tell my daughter she is stupid if she missuses a word. I ask her what she thinks the word means and if she doesn't know or thinks it means something else, I try to encourage her to find the "better" meaning or to use it properly. But, there I go again. What is really "right" and "wrong." I look forward to Part II of this video. I hope my ramblings weren't too disorganized or "stupid." 🙂
Part two! Yes please!
This was FANTASTIC! Learning about Grammar with an example from the greatest movie of all time, Mean Girls!
I am forever learning from you. :] <3
Definitely want a part 2! 😀 Also, a full video NEEDS to be done just about the Mean Girls movie!!! Please <3
Okay, you're not going to like this. Your talk about teen girls reminded me of a subject I've written about quite a bit–why is "Twilight" so loved and so hated? Of course there can be no one answer, but one that sprang out to me is that it is a teen female romantic fantasy, with Bella being a girl so many could relate to not least because she becomes the absolute without-any-doubt protagonist of these books (she really does completely determine the plot throughout, and her decisions govern everything) even though she's "ordinary" and "awkward." I would also maintain this very reason also fuels some of the seething, nasty hatred towards the books and its fans. We live in a society where the fantasies of teen boys are revered–James Bond, Batman, Wolverine, etc.–but with the growth of teen girl heroines this is changing. And some people loathe that fact. Bella Swan is the least masculine of the bunch, and her syrupy romance with Edward Cullen is a very stereotypically "girly" fantasy. Hence, the rampaging hatred of those who actually go see the movies in the cinema just so they can complain! Or, only slightly less stupid in some ways, the automatic assumption of all that is wrong with "Twilight" having never read or seen it. Me, I didn't feel that strongly either way. A friend (a girl who interestingly enough adores torture porn a la "Saw") insisted I read it. They were the literary equivalent of a fairly good cookie (I'd say "The Hunger Games" is a really delicious, top quality hamburger, with mushrooms and swiss cheese…now I'm hungry). But how people responded to "Twilight" continues to fascinate me. And I remain convinced one loud segment of those who really, really, really hate it with a passion do so out of pure misogyny–a fierce contempt from anything reeking of the values held by teenage girls in particular. (Along those lines I've found a certain chunk of the audience really disgusted that Katniss Everdeen feels things, suffers trauma, is in any way reluctant to kill people–and not surprisingly nearly all those complaining about that are male). Unclicking my soapbox icon now… 😛
I had assumed that when people say 'irregardless' they might be thinking of the word 'irrespective', which can often be used to replace 'regardless' and still have the same meaning [imagine uptalk here].
Patholigization isn't a word.I win.
Your videos are always so insightful, intelligent and brilliantly done! Loved this one so much. Definitely do a part 2 🙂
Aw, now I miss my linguistics courses! The first one started with "here's some things you have to unlearn" and we got our first lesson in "how not to be prescriptive assholes" (the prof. did not say that out loud, but the look she gave a student who disagreed did).
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